Welcome back to the Better Future podcast! I’m excited to bring you a hopeful conversation that feels especially needed in this moment. My guest today is Rob Hopkins – co-founder of the Transition Network, a global movement supporting communities to reimagine and rebuild their local economies in response to climate and economic crisis, and author of How to Fall in Love with the Future.
In this episode, we discuss the limits of the climate movement’s fear-based narrative, how Afrofuturism and the Black Panthers point toward a different kind of activism, the resistance movements bringing Rob and Michael hope, and what it means to build a mass longing for a better world. We also close with a live imagination exercise – traveling together to Paris in 2036 – that I think is worth sticking around for.
This episode – our first-ever live interview! – was recorded at ChangeNOW in Paris.
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I hope this episode filled you with imagination and hope for a better future – something we’ll be covering more frequently here on Substack.
Thanks for listening, and see you soon! 🥰
- Michael
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